Legislature(2013 - 2014)BARNES 124

04/11/2014 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 346 PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 346(L&C) Out of Committee
+ SB 138 GAS PIPELINE; AGDC; OIL & GAS PROD. TAX TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ SB 129 REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+= SB 159 AIR AMBULANCE SERVICES TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS SB 159(L&C) Out of Committee
+ SB 145 VETS' RETIREMENT/LOANS/HOUSING/EMPLOYMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ SB 58 CANCEL INS. ON CERTAIN ABANDONED PROPERTY TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
        SB 58-CANCEL INS. ON CERTAIN ABANDONED PROPERTY                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:13:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
SENATE BILL  NO. 58,  "An Act  allowing an  insurer to  cancel an                                                               
insurance policy  if property becomes entirely  abandoned and the                                                               
abandonment increases the hazard insured against."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:13:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALIDA BUS, Staff, Senator Dennis  Egan, Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
stated that SB 58 clarifies  that insurance can be cancelled when                                                               
a property owner  abandons the property, and  thereby increases a                                                               
hazard covered  by the insurance.   He referred to  AS 21.36.210,                                                               
which lists allowable reasons  for cancelling personal insurance,                                                               
including a grossly  negligent act by the  insured that increases                                                               
a covered  hazard and  physical changes  in the  insured property                                                               
that  result  in the  property  becoming  uninsurable.   As  this                                                               
statute  is currently  written,  it is  not  clear whether  these                                                               
reasons  would  include  abandonment   of  the  property  by  the                                                               
insured.   This is the  reason the  sponsor wants to  clarify the                                                               
entire abandonment cancellation of insurance.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BUS said  that homeowners insurance is  underwritten based on                                                               
the  property  generally  being  occupied.    An  abandoned  home                                                               
greatly   increases  the   risk   of  damage   beyond  what   was                                                               
contemplated in  the insurance contract, including  damage caused                                                               
by  vandalism, broken  water pipes,  and fire.   Cancellation  of                                                               
insurance when the  property is abandoned is  necessary to manage                                                               
insurance costs for all consumers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BUS related  that SB 58 clarifies that  insurance on property                                                               
that has been  entirely abandoned can be cancelled  in Alaska, as                                                               
it can in all other states.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:14:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOSEPHSON  asked   how   this  statute   defines                                                               
abandonment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BUS answered that "entire  abandonment" means the property is                                                               
no longer  occupied by the insured  as defined by the  policy and                                                               
does not have contents of substantial  utility.  Thus, if it is a                                                               
property that is owned by a  "snowbird," the fact that they spend                                                               
their winters south is probably reflected in the policy.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON suggested it might be listed as seasonal use.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BUS agreed.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:15:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON wondered  if it creates a  conundrum if the                                                               
person  is  paying  the  insurance how  it  could  be  considered                                                               
abandoned.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BUS clarified that the question  is to identify what it means                                                               
to  be abandoned.    She  suggested that  perhaps  the pipes  are                                                               
overflowing  or   the  property  doesn't  contain   any  moveable                                                               
contents.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  further suggested  that perhaps  no one  is watching                                                               
the property.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON pointed  out that  the customer  is paying                                                               
premiums  for the  insurance.   He  wondered if  this bill  would                                                               
allow  the insurance  company to  cancel the  policy even  if the                                                               
premiums are being paid.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BUS  offered her belief  that the situation for  the property                                                               
would have  to be so bad  that the insurance would  still want to                                                               
cancel  it.   She  acknowledged  that  if the  insurance  company                                                               
receives premiums  it would not  be in their interest  to collect                                                               
the  premiums.    Otherwise, the  insurance  company  could  just                                                               
choose not to renew the policy, she said.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:17:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHELDON  WINTERS, Lobbyist  and  Counsel,  State Farm  Insurance,                                                               
explained how  the bill  came about.   He related  that insurance                                                               
policies are written  and the premiums are  underwritten based on                                                               
certain  assumptions  and  requirements.   A  homeowner's  policy                                                               
assumes  that  the   home  will  primarily  be   "more  or  less"                                                               
maintained and  occupied.   He recognized  this will  differ from                                                               
person  to   person,  noting  some  people   don't  perform  much                                                               
maintenance and others are very  attentive.  However, within that                                                               
wide range,  homeowners are placed  in the same risk  pool, which                                                               
provides the  key to answering Representative  Herron's question.                                                               
As long as the risk is  acceptable and the homeowner has "more or                                                               
less"  been occupying  the property,  the homeowners  are in  the                                                               
same risk  pool.  Throughout the  country there has not  been any                                                               
dispute that when property becomes  abandoned, those risks become                                                               
so great that  they weren't contemplated in  the insurance policy                                                               
and  the property  should  not  be in  the  same  risk pool  that                                                               
everyone  participates  in.   For  example,  Ms. Bus  alluded  to                                                               
evidence of  vandalism or abandonment  of a home in  Fairbanks in                                                               
winter, which likely  means the pipes will freeze and  a flood or                                                               
fire results.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WINTER pointed  out  that  the problem  is  that the  Alaska                                                               
statutes are not completely clear  that insurance can be canceled                                                               
in those  instances.   He referred  to page  1, which  lists five                                                               
reasons for canceling insurance prior  to the renewal period.  He                                                               
read as follows:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      (4) discovery of a grossly negligent act or omission                                                                      
     by the insured that substantially increase the hazards                                                                     
     insured against;                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       (5) physical changes in the insured property that                                                                        
     result in the property becoming uninsurable;                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTER offered his belief  that this language is pretty broad                                                               
and vague.  He said this  statute is not much different than many                                                               
other  states.     Some  other  states   simply  allow  insurance                                                               
companies to  cancel insurance if  the hazard increases.   Others                                                               
are  more  specific  and  indicate   that  companies  can  cancel                                                               
insurance if  the property becomes abandoned  or vacant; however,                                                               
a  definition  for  abandoned  or   vacant  is  not  given.    He                                                               
emphasized  that  in all  states  when  the property  has  become                                                               
abandoned,  State Farm  Insurance, who  provide insurance  in all                                                               
states, has never  had a problem with the  divisions of insurance                                                               
by canceling.   He said  that the  question was raised  in Alaska                                                               
when the  state reviewed its  policy for consistency  in language                                                               
and  reviewed Alaska's  statutes with  the Division  of Insurance                                                               
(DOI) and whether existing statutes  would allow for cancellation                                                               
of insurance on abandoned property.   The division responded that                                                               
Alaska's statutes were  not completely clear and  taking a strict                                                               
view  that the  answer would  be  no.   The company  felt that  a                                                               
situation could  arise in  which someone  walks out  and abandons                                                               
the property and State Farm couldn't cancel the insurance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:22:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WINTERS said  the reason  this  is so  important during  the                                                               
midterm  of the  policy is  that the  premium has  been paid  and                                                               
[once canceled]  will be returned  to the consumer;  however, the                                                               
insurance company wants  to remove the at-risk  property from the                                                               
risk pool since something drastic could happen.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS  offered to  point out  practical protections  in the                                                               
statute, but emphasized  two things.  First,  the insurance agent                                                               
is in  business to sell  insurance, which  is their product.   It                                                               
doesn't make  sense that  they would  cancel insurance  since the                                                               
insurance premium  has been  paid and  return the  premium unless                                                               
something  drastic  has  happened.     Second,  the  local  agent                                                               
probably  provides the  customers their  auto insurance  and life                                                               
insurance.   Therefore,  the agent  will not  want to  lose these                                                               
policyholders  as customers.   From  a practical  standpoint, the                                                               
agent will try to reach out  and figure out what is happening and                                                               
if the  home is truly  abandoned.   Secondly, the policy  term is                                                               
for one  year and  at the  end of  the period  can choose  to not                                                               
renew the  policy and  not rely  on the  aforementioned statutory                                                               
cancellation policy.   For example, if a situation  arises in the                                                               
10th  or 11th  month  of  the policy  and  it  becomes clear  the                                                               
property has  been abandoned, the insurance  company could choose                                                               
to  not renew  the  policy.   He  clarified  that  what is  under                                                               
discussion  is an  eight or  nine-month period  of time  in which                                                               
something really  drastic has happened and  the insurance company                                                               
wants to cancel  the policy and remove the house  out of the risk                                                               
pool.  Turning to the proposed  bill, SB 58, State Farm Insurance                                                               
worked with  the DOI, the  industry, and  stakeholders, including                                                               
the realtors who wanted some "sideboards" on this.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS suggested  this bill was likely  the most restrictive                                                               
in  the  country.   Basically,  this  bill would  require  entire                                                               
abandonment.   First,  to be  considered  abandoned the  property                                                               
cannot  be occupied  by the  insured  as defined  in the  policy.                                                               
This  language  was inserted  to  address  the seasonal  home  or                                                               
recreational  home.   He clarified  that  a person  with a  cabin                                                               
policy  is assumed  to  not be  occupying it  most  of the  time.                                                               
Thus, the  insurance company will  not cancel the  policy because                                                               
the cabin  is not being  occupied.  Additionally, it  cannot have                                                               
contents of substantial  utility.  He emphasized that  he was not                                                               
aware  of any  other state  statute that  includes both  of these                                                               
requirements  to  meet  the  test   of  determining  whether  the                                                               
property is  abandoned.   This language was  put in  to basically                                                               
identify that not only is it  not occupied, but the furniture has                                                               
been removed,  and nothing exists  that could be utilized  by the                                                               
typical  homeowner.   At that  point the  insurance company  must                                                               
provide  a 30-day  written cancellation  notice,  as required  by                                                               
existing statute.   Additionally,  the statutes require  that the                                                               
insurer  must provide  written notice  to any  lender of  record.                                                               
Even if  the aforementioned notices  occur, the owner,  agent, or                                                               
real  estate agent,  or personal  representative  can inform  the                                                               
insurance company that  a mistake has been made  and the property                                                               
is  not  abandoned  property,  that  reasonable  maintenance  and                                                               
monitoring  is  underway  to  assure that  the  property  is  not                                                               
abandoned.   Finally,  he could  not  think of  any situation  in                                                               
which a property could be improperly  canceled.  He has not heard                                                               
anyone voice  concern; however, he  assured members that  the DOI                                                               
has  oversight  over all  of  this  and  if "some  rogue"  reason                                                               
existed the division  could step in.  He thanked  the sponsor for                                                               
this effort,  which has taken  several years and the  concept has                                                               
gone through  four or five  legislative committees.   In closing,                                                               
he said the company would like to see the bill move along.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:27:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON remarked  that  the bill  seemed to  be                                                               
written  tightly.   He  asked  how  State Farm  Insurance  treats                                                               
policies in  the event someone  has died  and their heirs  are in                                                               
the process of selling the property.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS answered  that the agent almost  assuredly would know                                                               
what  has  been   happening  and  would  talk   to  the  personal                                                               
representative.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:28:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  referred to page  2, line 6,  which read,                                                               
"entire  abandonment  of the  property  that  increases a  hazard                                                               
insured against;  ...."  He asked  whether he could think  of any                                                               
type  of entire  abandonment  that would  not  increase a  hazard                                                               
insured against.   He suggested that  homeowner's coverage covers                                                               
almost everything.  He wondered what it might not cover.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WINTERS answered  that he was right; however,  the intent was                                                               
to  make this  as restrictive  as possible  to satisfy  everyone.                                                               
This bill includes the provisions listed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:29:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON,  after first  determining  no  one else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on SB 58.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON moved  to report  SB 58  out of  committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
note.   There being  no objection,  SB 58  was reported  from the                                                               
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB346 ver N.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 346
HB346 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 346
HB346 Draft Proposed Blank CS ver O.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 346
HB346 Sectional Analysis ver O.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 346
HB346 Supporting Documents-Sampling of Benefit Corporations.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 346
HB346 Supporting Documents-States with Benefit Corporations.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 346
HB346 Supporting Document- Legal FAQS benefitscorp.net.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 346
SB58 ver N.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB58 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB58 Fiscal Note-DCCED-DOI-01-21-14.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB58 Supporting Documents-Written Testimony-NAMIC-4-07-2014.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB58 Supporting Documents-Email Babcock 2-20-2013.PDF HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB58 Supporting Documents-Letter NAMIC 2-21-2013.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB58 Supporting Documents-Handout State Farm 1-31-2014.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB58 Supporting Documents-Letter Brine 4-04-2013.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB58 Supporting Documents-Letter Winters 2-21-2013.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 58
SB129 Ver P.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 129
SB129 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 129
SB129 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 129
SB129 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-03-05-14.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 129
SB129 Supporting Documents-Letter AK Chamber.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 129
SB129 Supporting Documents-DCCED BCREA Audit 2013.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 129
SB129 Supporting Documents-Summary of Changes.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 129
SB145 ver A.PDF HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 145
SB145 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 145
SB145 Fiscal Note-DCCED-DED-01-17-14.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 145
SB145 Fiscal Note-DOA-DRB-01-20-14.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 145
SB145 Fiscal Note-DOR-AHFC-01-21-14.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 145
SB145 Fiscal Note-DOA-DOP-01-20-14.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 145
SB145 Supporting Documents-Transmittal Letter 1-28-2014.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 145
SB145 Supporting Documents-TalkingPointsExt.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 145
SB159 Draft Proposed Amendment ver N.1.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 159
SB159 Supporting Documents-Letter AK Trollers Assoc 3-17-2014.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 159
SB159 Supporting Documents-Letter United Fishermen of AK 3-13-2014.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 159
SB159 ver N.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 159
SB159 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 159
SB159 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 159
SB159 Fiscal Note-DCCED-DOI-2-10-14.pdf HL&C 4/11/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 159